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2.10 Hero Tier List | Broken Myth

Discussion in 'General' started by Broken Myth, Nov 12, 2017.

  1. Broken Myth
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    Vainglory Update 2.10 is sure to leave everyone wet as Lorelai splashes onto the scene. The aquatic keeper of eggs finds herself in a very strong position in both the lane and the captain roles. Rona has finally crossed the donkey bridge to pass Celeste for the top spot in the lane. In the captain spot, the backline ladies reign supreme with Lyra and Lorelai, while Ardan remains a strong pick and escorts the beautiful horned duo. Finally, Skye has taken on a new role of chief zombie killer as the jungle been taken over by the undead, Alpha and Krul.

    “My mom always said I’d be good at something. Who would have guessed it’d be killing zombies?”

    Read on for the full breakdown and Tier List!

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  2. Xhaos
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    Xhaos Technologist

    The graphics on this one look really good :eek:
    (Surprised to see Idris in the bottom. What happened to him?)
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  3. Wolffortress0001
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    Wolffortress0001 Undead

    Lorelai taking two top spots not surprised
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  4. Moonman117
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    Moonman117 Stormguard

    I never like these tier lists just because they always seem biased to make everyone sound good with the “worst” being impressive
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  5. Xyliaivalice
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    Xyliaivalice Grangor

    So umm. Apparently Skye isn't a laner at all this patch... But rona is... But Skye is a jungler... And rona is... Makes no sense.
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  6. Warmo
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    so, laners
    1) CP Baron wipes the floor with Celeste and is probably top 3 laners right now, or at least top 5, either way a superior pick to Celeste.
    2) Rona is nowhere near the top. She is an incredible niche pick versus certain comps, that's true. But placing Rona as number 1 laner means you can pick her in any possible matchup, and that's just not the case. She is a niche pick, just as with Carry Joule and Glaive.

    Some other choices are debatable, such as Ringo or Idris. But all in all, i'd say laners are vaguely reasonable. An important thing to add though, is that the difference in quality between laners is small, because carries are mostly well balanced this patch.

    Junglers are a lot more clear cut.
    1) Reza is among the top 3, and should replace Skye.
    2) Fortress, Celeste and Kestrel are weak junglers now. Celeste and CP Kestrel need a lot of farm and items to make a noticeable impact and are easily dived by this sustain meta.
    3) Baptiste and Reim are much closer to the top, although not quite meta. I'd say they come right after Petal. Ozo should come after them.

    As for Captains:
    1) Lyra/Ardan are without a doubt top meta. I'm not yet sold on Lorelei so I will reserve judgement.
    2) Grace is at least as viable as Ardan/Lorelei. She requires a lot more skill to pull off than Ardan, but is way more impactful when played right.
    3) Lance comes right after the above mentioned heroes. Not top tier, but solid. I'd say he is better than Churnwalker since he has superior CC and outplay potential.


    Compared to other meta judgements made by Broken Myth, i'd say this one is the most accurate. Also looks cool af.
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  9. Idris78
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    Idris78 Meekos

    Idris became meta when he countered that current meta(baron,vox) as wp idris is all about burst. He got hit due to global health buffs and this is a sustain bruiser meta and he has been bad against them in general plus saw bullies him early game. He is way down in terms of damage output and needs 4 items to do damage but then as he is dive oriented he needs defense to survive else he gets deleted plus once someone gets a metal jacket he tickles them. Wp Gwen and idris are two burst carries who got hit hard due to global health buffs. Most of the other burst heroes who build aftershock and are in a better place
    His cp path is decent though but every laner other than Ringo is better now. Ringo is in a even worser state than idris . I think wp Gwen, wp idris and Ringo will stay at the bottom even in 5v5(including this as SEMC seems to do everything with it in mind)unless they buff them up as they are all about single target damage and the damage they do is nothing to speak of
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  10. Tiem
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    Tiem Mageborn

    YESSS THE FUTURE IS CIRCLES
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  11. Spiral793
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    Spiral793 River Troll

    Skye has always been a jungle unless you are playing WP Skye which is a situational pick. Rona has been seeing play in the lane for sometime now..
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  12. Colton
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    Colton Technologist

    Your content is always so great! Thank you
  13. PvE
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    PvE Grangor

    I agree for the most part but imo CP Baron > CP gwen if you're going for a poke/artillery comp.
    Reasons being:
    1. Barons A > Gwens A
    -Yeah, the vision utility from gwens A is good, but with the new vision hitting people with barons A works almost just as fine as they cover a larger area.
    -The mortars have two charges and are available thus more often than Gwens A. The slow from the mortars is also significant and can be chained with even more mortars, unlike Gwens A which is a one time thing.
    -in the current meta, dps>burst. Gwens A is easy to heal back as there is a delay between buck shots, wherehas barons A is almost always available rapid fire with a cw

    2. Barons B> Gwens B
    -Barons B has more utility for him - the duration which he is free from negative effects is longer if you max it (which most people don't on CP, but sometimes it's better vs some comps), it's much harder to hit a baron while he is in jumps jets than a gwen that is skedaddling, and you can't skeddadle over walls - this is a key feature of cp Baron which can allow him to escape a bad fight entirely. Considering the current meta, it is probably more important to completely stay clear of dps heroes than running away from them. In addition, Gwen loses her movement speed utility when she is combat, which makes her just a bit faster than Baron during conflicts.

    3. Barons ult> gwen ult
    Vainglory is a game of objectives, as is any other moba. Having a cp baron and vision on your team means that you can probably secure every single objective on the map that you can see given proper timing with his ult, which isn't something gwen can do. Yes, the stun is useful, but that's vs burst heroes! One stun wont be enough to save you from a krul and ardan dive.

    imo CP Baron is literally the most broken hero this patch along with Rona. An alpha cannot go into reboot vs any comp with cp Baron in it because of the inevitable one shot when she reboots. Ppl will disagree with Rona being good but they don't realize that ronas counters except for vox suck this patch, like ringo, petal, kestrel.
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  14. DeadEyeDirtyEldy
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    Agree for the most except for the ults...

    Gwen's ult is all bout chaining your abilities and other CCs, and it's way more useful in a teamfights, also it's scaling nice with boht WP and CP while Baron's ult takes too much time and it's too predictable, which can only be useful when you're 100% know going to land it...
    it's a huge burst but anyting else about it is unreliable, including to secure objectives...
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  15. DarkHydra2002
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    FITE ME
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  16. Modafar
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    Modafar Elder

    I'd exchange Celeste for Baron and Skye for Reza. Everything else looks solid and the circles are sick.
  17. TheNotSoPro
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    TheNotSoPro Meekos

    Reza was better 2.9 he feels different now... Skye also got a dmg buff this patch.
  18. DeadEyeDirtyEldy
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    DeadEyeDirtyEldy Stormguard

    Also there is a bug that is indirect buff to Rona...
    After she's casting red mist her HP continue to fortified to 1.2 seconds
  19. TheLegend
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    TheLegend Stormguard

    CP Idris has always been kinda on the strong side and was easy to play, the way I remember nivmett describing him was along the lines of "it was not healthy gameplay, chunking someone for half their health was not fun". Now that cp Idris is a lot harder to pull off, people look to wp Idris. Wp Idris has the potential to be very strong, but needs a lot of practice to play properly. As someone who mains WP idris, I can affirm that this patch he's good, in fact, better than ever. Hes a high skill cap hero that rewards good timing and punishes bad positioning. He's exactly where he should be.
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    • RONA is a God
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